This book encompasses a broad range of conversations between Jan Tumlir and Jorge Pardo, which span a period of 20 years, beginning in 1999. Cuban-born, Mexico-based artist Jorge Pardo (born 1963) explores the intersection of contemporary painting, design, sculpture and architecture. Employing a broad palette of vibrant colors, eclectic patterns, and natural and industrial materials, Pardo’s works range from murals to home furnishings to collages to larger-than-life fabrications. Here in conversation with art writer, teacher and curator Jan Tumlir (born 1962), he discusses contemporary art, design, publishing and music. The conversations also connect to the varied contexts of Los Angeles and Merida, Mexico, where they took place. The result is a story of a unique intellectual friendship that has helped define both of their thinking and practice.